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⚡Thalia The Comedy Muse⚡'s avatar

These are great. They take me back to my graphic design classes.

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Nathaniel Roy's avatar

Thanks for reading! Glad I could transport you back 😉

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Davin Trail-Risk's avatar

I would highly recommend, “Book Typography: A Designer’s Manual” by Mitchell and Wightman to anyone looking to dive into book design. It’s a thick tome of a book that is itself beautifully designed and it has everything.

In the end, I do think that many of the rules can be semi-arbitrary but it’s still good to have a working understanding of them. I say that as someone who has designed a handful of books but it has never been the focus of my design work.

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Nathaniel Roy's avatar

Thanks for the rec, Davin! That book sounds great (though it looks hard to find at a reasonable price after a brief google).

I agree about the arbitrary nature of design rules. In the right hands—maybe even accidentally—any of these “self published” markers could be used to great effect.

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Davin Trail-Risk's avatar

Yeah that book has always been expensive! I got mine maybe a decade ago and I think it was around $80 back then. So not for the person with passing interest but solid resource and for a book that is as knowledge dense as it is, it’s still a lovely experience as a reader.

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C.M. Cardinale's avatar

EXCELLENT.

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Flagrare 🔥's avatar

About the spine, did you know that in the UK (and the US), the generally accepted standard is to set the text from “top-to-bottom”, but in most European countries, the tendency is the opposite (bottom-to-top)?

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Nathaniel Roy's avatar

I did not! Thank you for letting me know—I will make a note

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Flagrare 🔥's avatar

I am glad to help! It is a complete mess here in Brazil since some publishers adopt the US/UK pattern, and others European's!

As far as I understand the reasoning behind it is that the European way makes it easier for the book to be read in a vertical position (from bottom to top is like from left to right) when they are on a shelf, BUT the US/UK way makes it easier to be read when the book is in the horizontal (such as on a table)!

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CM Powers's avatar

Love what you did with the title of this post. I hold a special place in my heart for that cheesy old 80s dance movie. Kind of like Lambada: The Forbidden Dance 🤣

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D.A. Bishop's avatar

Laughing at myself for, just this week, stretching a super condensed font AND (probably) overly relying on transparency for some substack post art. Ah well. I guess my eye isn't as good as I thought.

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Nathaniel Roy's avatar

Hey—break the rules! Just know how and why. Ben Denzer used Comic Sans on a book cover and it's one of my favorites ever.

https://freight.cargo.site/w/2000/q/75/i/e7001326e9d0ccd9c5e3f104426cf0660d60b353f33412c450b08343b8b63f7c/AGuideForMurderedChildren_T.jpg

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Daniel Benneworth-Gray's avatar

Nodding frantically at all of these … but the This is a Stroke cover is so bad it’s kind of fabulous! Maybe it’s just a great title. Either way, I’d definitely pick that up.

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Nathaniel Roy's avatar

Daniel, we may need to check if you’ve HAD a stroke 😁

I feel the same way about some books. I picked one up from a little free library this morning that is in contention for both worse and favorite cover I’ve ever seen.

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Daniel Benneworth-Gray's avatar

It’s the Brat factor. With the right title, and the right degree of awfulness, something magical can happen.

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